Bonus Episode: 8 Books for Leaders Who Think Differently
Julie has an app that catalogs every book she owns. Hanna had to leave her library behind when she moved to Spain, keeping only her favorites. This is the episode they've both been waiting for.
To close season one, Hanna Miller and Julie Euber swap book recommendations. These reads changed how they think about burnout, rest, data, hard conversations and curiosity. Eight books. None of them have "management" in the title.
The thread running through all of them: the way you've been taught to think about work, rest, and productivity is costing you. These books offer different frames.
📖 Laziness Does Not Exist — Devon Price
What we call laziness is usually a systems problem.
📖 Burnout — Emily and Amelia Nagoski
Burnout is unprocessed stress, and naming it alone doesn't resolve it.
📖 How to Do Nothing + Saving Time — Jenny Odell
The attention economy is stealing the mental space that good leadership requires.
📖 Think Again — Adam Grant
Confidence comes from flexibility, not from being right.
📖 Invisible Women — Caroline Criado Perez
The average most systems are built around doesn't actually exist.
📖 Crucial Conversations — Kerry Patterson et al.
Hard conversations are hard because the relationship matters, and this book gives you the map.
📖 Charlotte's Web — E.B. White
Julie's wildcard: a CDL leader found in the wild, doing systems change with the only tool she has.
Hanna also poses a question worth sitting with: what's the thing that makes you a better leader that someone might call laziness? The walk. The nap. The hour of doing nothing. Most of us have one.
0:00 Welcome
2:18 Laziness Does Not Exist — Devon Price
5:36 Burnout — Emily and Amelia Nagoski
8:12 How to Do Nothing + Saving Time — Jenny Odell
10:50 Think Again — Adam Grant
12:52 Invisible Women — Caroline Criado Perez
15:06 Crucial Conversations — Kerry Patterson
17:48 A CDL leader in the wild
19:47 Season one wrap
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